google would say we're making the internet better for everybody. side effect is that the newsrooms are suffering as a result. >> right. >> this is a problem much bigger than huffpost or buzzfeed? >> yes. journalism is a pillar of democracy. we need wide ranging news out lets. >> you were notified about this on thursday. so were many of your colleagues. i've been reading about people getting death threats, laid-off journalists getting death threat. >> yeah. >> is this affecting you, too? >> yeah. what happens is fortune -- an incubator had this campaign for journalists to tell us to learn to code, to send us death threats. i've been getting death threats my entire journalism career. it's nothing new to me except the volume of it is really intense. after you have just lost your job it's incredibly painful. >> have you thought about what comes next? is it too soon to think about that? >> it's a little too soon for