i believe it was october, what, 7th or 8th? at any rate, the day wikileaks released the first of the podesta e-mails, as my recollection that roger mentioned this billy bush was coming and he wanted to know if assange could begin dropping e-mails. now roger may have a different recollection of that. i'm not disputing what roger's recollection is. i can only tell you what my recollection is. and i doucbt anything was able o be communicated by the world net daily staff. as we look through that day, i was -- it was a very busy day for me in new york city. i was working with a lot of conference calls and a lot of different meetings. >> so -- >> but i can't find anyone that i was communicate with who had any direct contact with assange because i didn't have direct contact. >> let me ask you, last question, you e-mailed roger stone to say you, quote, should be given credit, according to an e-mail the prosecutors have. why would you say that if you don't think you deserved credit