there, kind of a fish tank type thing behind glass waiting for the judge to tell him his verdict. the judge then came in and just in a short sentence says the bail has been denied, not naming any reason for that. paul whelan seemed to be in different spirits. he was smiling every once in a while. i tried to ask him how he was being treated, whether he was doing okay. he didn't answer those questions because he is not allowed to talk to journalists when he is inside that court. and therefore didn't answer those questions. now, what we herd eaard earlier paul whelan's attorney, that he was apprehended by the russian police and that he was in possession of what they say constitutes state secrets here of russia. the defense says that they denied that that is the case, they don't believe that he was in possession of state secrets. so this is something that now will go to a trial that could last for months here in russia.