trump tower moscow, but it's in some ways a bigger problem because this can't be spun as part of the russia hoax. this is its own crime. it's about impeding congress's legitimate oversight functions and really interfering with the checks and balances in our structure of government, which means that congress has to take it seriously as an institution regardless of how they might feel politically about the russia investigation itself. >> garrett, what about you? how big is this? >> i very much agree with asha. this is a very big development and for some of the same reasons she just laid out. the fact that this is separate from the underlying questions of what actually happened with russia, points to i think one of the things that we have seen sort of bread crumbs of in many of these court filings, which is that robert mueller -- we think of the bob mueller obstruction probe as this binary question of