have been living in a nightmare for a while, this is the beginning of a new national nightmare. it is astounding. >> if you go back to that place in time and try to figure out why they were doing what they were doing, there is that narrative that maybe the president thought that he's going to win so he continues with this business dealings and trying to set himself up. this tracks that view, now after he's elected, what does he do? we got to lie about him and cover him up. >> even if he did not think he was going to win. that does not make it right. >> it does not make it right. we are dealing with people that are not dealt in the realm of legality. it explains of the thought pattern of what went through their minds after the election. >> i will get it in. >> the president's action is really very, very similar to the way organized crime bosses behaved.