million bill. but it wasn't immoral 11 months ago that wall. it's only immoral now because the president boxed himself in. >> i know people keep saying that. i don't think it was in the form that the president says. and no one is saying there shouldn't be some -- there's already a structure. democrats are saying there's already a structure. >> but the wall is immoral now. writing in "the new york times," you know, its racist, immoral -- >> there are places where the wall makes sense and places where it doesn't. >> the president, you know, he talks about the wall, which was his signature promise, right, michael, but he could tell his supporters because they want to believe him. they're not going to not support him regardless. he could tell his supporters, listen, whatever he wants to say -- i'm not going to come up with any scenario -- but the economy is the saving grace of this president. and he has to choose one over the other. i think he is being a little bit