she's very much talking about policy. very much talking about the rigged economy and corporations, and she would be a voice in terms of economic populism. but all of the democrats i talk to are glad the field is this huge. imagine if there are 30 people running, my goodness, you'll be touching every aspect of the party. every sort of ideology, and you are going to be setting up organizations in all of these states that eventually are going to be important in the general. >> what democrats want is a candidate who can beat trump. ultimately, that's more than their policy on health case, their policy on the economy. they want someone that can get up on stage and take on trump. they don't know if they want somebody who is going to go toe-to-toe and be just as aggressive as trump is. they don't know if it should be somebody who can rise above that. an experienced politician or a new face right now. that's what's going to make this so interesting. but i do find in talking to democratic voters and strategists, people deciding whether to jump on to this campaign, that's the driving factor. can i look at you and see you