stand against the status quo. >> well, when you hear from politicians, there's a lot that both sides agree upon, and that there is a need for greater border security. there is a need to increase the opportunities to catch those people who want to do harm to the u.s., coming across the border, to catch more drugs coming across the border, but there is a disparity on what the solution is. let's talk about the bad guys who may wants to get across, the potential terror threat and i want to look at both borders because the data suggests that the northern border is actually more problematic, first of all, the length, it is roughly 4,000 mile, that's not even including canada's border with alaska, compared to 1900 miles there on the southern border, and when you look at the apprehension of people who are on the terror watch list, here's the data we have. in the 2018 fiscal year, there were roughly a dozen apprehensions, a dozen of individuals who were on that terror watch list on the southern border. and half of those were stopped at legal ports of entry.