>> well, first of all, let's be honest, this president has a habit of pathological dissembling, and that's being polite. it's almost a case of, don't believe of what you see with your eyes and hear with your own ears, believe what i tell you. and maybe he fools some percentage of the public with that, but i don't think he's going to fool many people. all of us saw it for many, many rallies during the campaign in 2016 and afterwards. what are we going to do? we're going to build a wall. who's going to pay for it? mexico. he couldn't have been clearer and now he's backtracking and asking the american taxpayers to foot the bill. >> right. as his own communications executive there, you saw mercedes schlapp, admitted very directly. the president also said today, congressman, that nothing else can do the job of an old-fashioned wall.