>> can i make one other point? i think where we are headed here after listening to the president yesterday and just listening to him this morning and listening to speaker pelosi, i think he is going to invoke the national emergencies act. >> do you think believe that that is the right thing to do, to in effect by pass congress? are you concerned about the precedent that sets? you can imagine future presidents saying if i can't get money for my legislative priority and call it an emergency. doesn't that concern you? >> of course. it's not my preferred choice. you make a very salient point. but we don't want government to be shutdown. and i see no indication that speaker pelosi is ever going to concede that a physical barrier