they either have travel patterns that are identified as terrorist travel patterns, or they have known or suspected ties to terrorism. >> that sounds pretty scary, huh? but wait. former homeland security secretary john kelly, who is also the former chief of staff, white house chief of staff, defined special interest as, quote, being from parts of the world where terrorism is prevalent or nations that are hostile to the united states. a homeland security official in the obama administration told congress in 2016 that, quote, many citizens of these countries migrate for economic reasons or because they are feeling persecution in their home countries. and i want you to listen to this exchange between sarah sanders and fox news' chris wallace. you have to watch this. chris wallace, who refused to let the white house press secretary off the hook. here it is. >> we know that roughly nearly