what should alexandria ocasio-cortez and all the other new members of congress, what should they expect? >> well, she hasn't asked my advice. i'm sure she's not going to. but i would say there are some people that really care that are there, that could really help. and so people are going to be looking and seeing if she's going to be a show pony or a work horse. they are going to want to know whether you're willing to put in the work. there is a lot of work. when you want to get a bill through, you have to convince your colleagues to support that bill. >> because she's calling for primary challenges against some democrats, which has already angered some democrats. >> right. so you've got -- i would also say my motto was not to let perfect be the enemy of a really good win. so if i can move the ball down the field, i love football so i use football analogies a lot. if i can move the ball down and get a first down, that's really good progress. >> you're talking about compromise.