with acting chief of staff mick mulvaney, and one of the things that mulvaney and i were talking about was the deliberations about the president potentially fund the border wall. what do you make of that? what do you think? >> i make of that really threatening talk from the president that he doesn't have the power to execute. look, if harry truman couldn't nationalize the steel industry during wartime, this president doesn't have the power to declare an emergency and build a multibillion dollar wall on the border, so that's a nonstarter. and i think that what the president needs to do more than anything else, he's painted himself into a corner on this thing, is figure out how he unpaints himself from that corner. we need to reopen the government. we need to put people back to work. and i think senator jones was making a very important point, which is really something that i'm very focused on as well, and that is, we can't allow this continual process that was really modernized by the tea