>> well, the problem is that the government is shut down. you know, our state wants the government to open, to be open for business. i think that's the most important thing for the people of alabama right now. we have a lot of government workers in this state. we also have a lot of contractors who spend on that government work. you know, a lot of people want border security, for sure, but they also want the government services and they want the government to operate. i do not believe that holding government workers and all those affected by government services hostage is the way to determine how best to secure our borders, which everyone wants. >> well, i don't know if you heard acting white house chief of staff mick mulvaney, but he's saying the president wants $5.6 billion for border security, which includes the wall but not exclusively. speaker nancy pelosi says she's not willing to give any money for the wall. do you think that there should be a compromise made that some money should be given to the white house for the border wall? >> well, initially, there was money. you know, all of the bills that