federal workers, the president is talking about, who want him to keep holding their paychecks until he gets funding for the wall. that was the only way we could make sense of what that meant. you did hear him say during the news conference, he didn't use strike there, but did say that he doesn't like calling it a shutdown. >> which is obviously at odds with three weeks ago. >> yeah. >> you more detail on what pelosi calls a sometimes contentious meeting. you write the speaker told homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen, quote, i reject your facts. the secretary replies, these aren't my facts. these are the facts. obviously, it's an administration that said there was alternative facts. >> from what i understand, this has happened a couple times now.