purposes, i don't think that's good or right to do. and i don't think it's good for the left to do it. so when you speak to leader pelosi, will you tell her let's give a little toward the wall, give a little, get a little. let's get the gump back open? >> this legislation includes tens of millions of dollars for border security. >> jennifer, not to parse words, but the words are really important, especially to this president, who has to sign it. none of that allocated $1.3 billion can go towards the wall. >> right, but the border security is more than just a concrete wall. and even the administration allegedly has come off of that over the time. and talking about, you know, metal slats and other kinds of border security. nobody is denying that we need strong borders and we need border security, but there are smarter ways to do it than a giant concrete wall. >> you think there are. the president doesn't. okay. so i guess i just wonder, to put a button on it, are you supportive of democrats putting