has to include both sides. he's in the white house. he's in washington ready to negotiate. this is important for border security and keeping the government open. you keep saying wall, wall, wall because you want wall to be a four-letter word. >> and there's something else. the soon to be former white house chief of staff telling a reporter that an actual physical wall was never really a practical option for the entire border with mexico. john kelly, in an extensive interview in today's "los angeles times," saying, quote, to be honest, it's not a wall. the article goes on to say, asked if there's a security crisis at the southern border or whether trump has drummed up fear of immigrant invasions for fears, he said, quote, we do have an immigration problem. now to the white house. sarah westwood is standing by. the president hasn't made a personal appearance this weekend, but he's been busy on twitter, accusing democrats of not caring about border