statement like manufacturing jobs didn't come through but that's not the point. >> maybe he meant the first in it 10 years, or multiplied by the four-year term -- >> all of that would be wrong. >> what i meant about holier than how the is we saw from the same trip the media speak in incredible terms that they were violating rules. all that wasn't true and yet newspaper outlets ran stories cover to cover saying it was. >> i hes tiitate to use the wor lie -- first it's clear whether what he said is false. but isn't clear whether he has no idea what he's talking about or telling bald face lies. >> he's been lying his entire life.