world war and then you had mau and his madness. so from 1914 to 1954 let's say it certainly looks like it was a pretty bleak period. >> it did. by the way, normal angel did not predict that war could not happen, he just predicted -- >> many people read the book and said that, you know -- because it represented what seemed like a century of peace and progress that had taken place. >> well, only if you look at certain parts of europe. it wasn't so peaceful in the united states which had the worst war in its history, the civil war, it wasn't so peaceful in china which had the worst civil war in human history, not so peaceful in southern africa -- >> but then you're making my point. i'm not -- the point i'm trying to make is that despite that illusion of peace the next 30 years proved to be war-filled, violent, bloody -- >> yes, and it can happen and i'm not predicting that it can't