it is what they want, they are part of the trump base. for some, it means that they may not get paid, federal employees don't want a government shutdown. and then internationally, how does this make the united states look. so different ways to look at this. >> absolutely. that is one issue on the president's plate. here is another. and that is the stock market. and president trump is reportedly so angry with his own appointee at the u.s. february that he federal reserve that he discussed firing him. mr. trump got trufrustrated wit jerome powell after the recent stock market losses and this week's interest hike. but some think the president is partly responsible for that hike. >> in all respect, he can say whatever he wants to say because the federal reserve, it was very clear, it was very independent from him. powell came out to say that they are making this decision separate and i think truthfully