out of a trillion dollar spending bill to build the wall when it was one of trump's major promises in the american people. >> this is unbelievable. >> is that like saying it's on sale, even though it's a horrible item you should buy it anyway? >> what are you talking about? trump ran for president, every speech he gave, he said i'm going to build this wall, he wins the election, and democrats say, we're not for border security, we're not going to do this, we want catch ask and release, sanctuary states and sa sanctuary cities. i think trump should take this to the american people, say the democrats can't spend $4 billion. >> go, joan. >> you know, history is going to judge folks who made this economy argument very poorly. and if i didn't care about -- don't interrupt me. >> why? why? >> if i didn't care about the people who will be furloughed over the holiday, i would say bring it on. because i really relish the idea