least as of now it doesn't look like he's going to get them. >> it just shows you, brian stelter, your point, josh, of the power of conservative media and the freedom caucus for that matter. >> the power, that's right, of the freedom caucus and the conservative media. the president's message was be afraid, be very afraid. most americans are not afraid of what he was describing, the so-called threat that he sees and portrays from mexico. however, many members of his base are very concerned, and that is because those concerns are stoked every day by right wing media. so i think it's notable that the president thinks this is a winning issue for him, even though we just had a mid-term election and. president made this his main message right up to the mid terms and the gop lost in a big way in the mid-terms. >> right. >> this isn't a winning issue for him and he's still being supported by the right wing media voices, rush limbaugh, for example, challenging the president to do something and then what did trump do this afternoon? he sent a message to limbaugh, yes, i will shut down the government if i have to, so the president is being influenced by these tv and radio voices, and