for. what we're talking about are the corrosive attacks the president is making right now. >> to the point you're making, you talk about 157 times, part of the issue here is, comey is standing up now, and he has obviously, he did his book tour, but today was a new level. this all started by, they broke into an attorney's office we know the president of the united states knows is untrue. when he knows it's untrue i will call it a lie. it's a lie. here's how he responded. let me play that. >> it undermines the rule of law. this is the president of the united states calling a witness who has cooperated with his own justice department a rat. say that again to yourself at home, and remind yourself where we have ended up. we need to stop being numb to it, you need to stand on your feet, overcome your shame and say something.