you've got the security clearance data, their health care data, and with marriott, you have where they're traveling, with whom and when. it's really interesting. of all that information stolen from anthem, marriott and the office of personnel management, we've never once seen it being sold on the dark web. what's that tell you? they want to keep it for themselves. >> marriott's response is also -- i mean, explain what's going on here. because there is potentially a huge bill that comes out of this, because marriott has said, for example, if your passport information was compromised, we're going to -- we'll pay for the processing of a new passport. >> with a caveat. the caveat has been, if it's been compromised and we've seen it used in a fraud, we will buy your new passport. new passport in the united states, about $110. so you multiply that out by the 360 million passports stolen, many of which were nonamerican, you get to, as you say, billions and billions of dollars.