in, get seated, committee chairs to get filled, and then actually have a full debate on a bipartisan solution. >> and have a real debate. that is a novel idea, my goodness. the president's former attorney, i want to ask you, michael cohen, he spoke out this morning after his sentencing. he said the president knew about the hush money payments, knew they were wrong, and did it to help his campaign. the special counsel has said that cohen's information that he gave to them is credible. do you believe michael cohen? >> i believe that we need to follow the full letter of the law on this and certainly there should be a much greater transparency than what we have seen. >> do you believe him when he says that donald trump lied about russia? >> i'm not sure what to believe with michael cohen. you know, i think that there is certainly a difference between a businessman that was conducting himself differently than he was as a presidential candidate and differentiating between the two