currently traveling through mexico towards the u.s. crucially not in the caravan but somewhere in mexico. no evidence provided evidence that they had terror ties. that's a major difference. the president can make many arguments for a border wall but has completed a claim about a terror threat that the agency responsible for protecting the u.s. homeland from terrorism has not backed up. >> not backed up by the facts. even the president entitled to his opinion -- we have our guests to talk about all of this. look, guys, jim laid out really important facts. you cannot disspute those. here is another important fact in response to the president last night telling reuters i will take the blame when he is talking about a government shutdown. he said because we are closing it down for border security. the facts don't back it up.