welcome back. we reported quite a scene made for tv in the oval office today. the president says if he doesn't get what he wants, the long-promised wall, he'll shut down the government. after the meeting he doubled down. >> part of border security is a wall. i don't mind owning that issue. chuck's problem is when -- the slowdown was his idea last time, and honestly he got killed. he doesn't want to own it. rather than us debating, i'll take it. if we close down the country, i will take it, because we're closing it for border security. i think i win that every single time. >> with me now, kiersten powers, and former rnc chief of staff, mike shields. good to have you both. it was certainly hard to keep up