with neal on this? >> oh, i don't think you can point to another pair of campaign contributions that were so directly tied to the outcome. you know, especially an election that was this close. it's very hard to count how many votes might have been affected, but you can be sure that's why they paid the money, because they knew they were in a close election, and they didn't want this very embarrassing sinus to -- news to come out. they felt this was a crime that deserved jail time, but if michael cohen deserves jail time for a contribution that he wasn't even a beneficiary of, what does that say about what donald trump deserves? that is a question that -- i mean, it just hangs out there. the southern district doesn't answer it, but it's a pretty remarkable thing to think about when they assert that this