i don't know why i hate that word. i have such an aversion to that word. said that ayers said no. right? and so he has no plan b. this is a testament to how chaotic this white house is. >> yeah. i actually think a lot of times when you hear officials quoted on background, senior administration official and they pooh-pooh something that then happens, i actually don't think that they're lying or trying to mislead. i think it is the nature of this white house that he, donald trump, changes his mind very quickly. often i would say in reaction to press coverage. and therefore this move, he will move on to something else and say this was always the plan. but make no mistake. on sunday night, this time yesterday, don, nick ayers was likely to be the guy. he takes himself out in a big surprise. it doesn't play out the way trump wants. the narrative is this guy walked away from me. he doesn't like that. that makes him mad. he'll move on to the next person. and as he tweeted out last night, this is all part of the plan, it's fake news, i wanted nick ayers. remember, fake news for him means news i don't like.