the russians want something from them. they want something from the russians. there are all these entanglements, and the big deal, of course, is the election. it's one thing to have a conflict of interest with a business, but the other thing is if the trumps really want this business deal, then they're willing to get -- to give the russians what they want, and vice versa, and, you know, at the time it wasn't clear that the president even thought he was going to win the election.