i think it will tell us a lot, it will tell us maybe they were justified in their concern or maybe it will tell us president trump was justified in feeling like there were people within his government who were going beyond this scope of their jobs and taking extraordinary steps to undermine his presidency. i think it's really -- that's an extraordinary thing to learn about the president and tells us a lot about why he has been so angry for so long about his justice department. >> i agree that it may shed a great deal of light why the president was so obsessed with mccabe, and law enforcement in general and fbis in particular are not known to undermine significant authority. if these actions were true that we are reporting, that's because there was a real concern that seemed urgent about the new president and potential