position. >> it is interesting when you say it is a psychological -- that notion keeps coming back, that we're being taken advantage of, we're being laughed at. it is sort of a -- i can't get into his head or psychoanalyze him. >> i'm happy to psychoanalyze him. >> he's somebody who is worried about being laughed at. >> it is self-referencial. he has equated his experience with the national experience. when he talks about what's right for the country, he imagines that it's what's right for him. so as tony was saying, this is a primitive thing that goes back, actually, to the early 1970s and the arab oil embargo. then he was mad at the japanese for their competition with detroit. then when detroit was doing a little bit better, he was mad at mexico and china. one of the troubling elements of this is that his trade disputes tend to be with non-white countries. he's never really very mad at