juliette, in the new court filing from cohen's attorneys they say in addition to his interviews with the special counsel that cohen is cooperating with prosecutors from the u.s. attorney's office concerning an ongoing investigation. the new york state attorney general's office civil lawsuit against the trump foundation and state tax authorities. so how worried should the president be? because this is one he can't pardon anybody for, right? >> that's right. and this is part of the theory that renato and others have been talking about, that mueller has sort of dispersed this case to enough different courts in terms of different legal proceedings so that there's not one single point of failure. in other words, if trump fires mueller there's still going to be a whole bunch of other stuff going on. what you see this week is the panic attack trump was having quite publicly on twitter, is what i call -- what i've been calling the 4 m problem.