thanksgiving before we attacked north, thanksgiving in 1990. our -- our family members who remained in germany, i remember coming back as a major, and they said, boy, did we have faith in our leadership. president bush, colin powell, at the time secretary of defense cheney. so that just -- example of leadership, of understanding what's going on, of knowing the plight of the service member is all role of the commander in chief. and i saw one of your earlier takes this morning where he said the toughest decision of a president is to send forces to war. that certainly is difficult, and he understood that, i think, more than many other presidents of our recent time. >> let's expand this conversation about leadership. you talk about it domestically during desert storm, but really globally the president's leadership leading into desert shield and desert storm in creating the coalition of the