his father did together on that air force one statement, what he said about the block phone numbers on calls. >> right. >> there are a lot of statements that he made that struck me at the time. >> all right. so you think that and made ve ferls to the special prosecutor. it's not referral it's referrals. you're saying you think multiple people lied. >> and also came before our committee. i'm certain that being the systematic prosecutor is looking because he was intimately involved. >> in the trump tower interaction? >> yes. he was the guy in moscow on the ground who was producing michael