project. michael cohen, what he's doing is he was convicted -- he was convicted of various things unrelated to us -- >> the issue is not that the project never came to fruition. it's that it was in the works at a time when the president said he had no business with russia, no investments. not doing the deal doesn't excuse the president from lying about trying to get a deal done. and the president just said he decided not to do the deal. that's key. why? michael cohen had said originally when he lied to congress, that he decided that the deal was dead. that gave trump cover. trump's argument right there that he was busy with the race, he wasn't paying any attention, he didn't know anything about this. if that's true, how could he be the one to pull the plug? was he involved or not? lastly, cohen was not convicted of things unrelated to the president.