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health and health care. that's what they want to see. it's got to be both. also the politics has to be removed from it. that call next week, it's not helpful to drag in supreme court justices when you're on a call with troops overseas. they need focus and need to know that their service isn't being politicized. >> so you don't think they were happy -- they were kind of baffled about the president veering into conversations about trade. >> no. we see our military being politicized over and over again. it's a pla bad place for the president to go. he isn't experienced. he wasn't a governor or senator. you learn a lot of this during that course of time and service. it's a guardrail you shouldn't hit, especially around the holidays. he has done it with the conn family, john mccain, the mcraven family. his numbers in the military are dropping. these things are starting to pile up. >> let's be honest, he also

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