cowboy and indian film of scalp-hungry indians was not really the case. >> roger: well, they took scalps too. but they kind of learned from the anglos, and when the texans came in it intensified. if you were a rancher coming out here in the 1870s, you'd better have a lot of guns, because you were an invader. and the people you were invading knew you were an invader. [ meat sizzling ] ♪ >> anthony: oh, damn. you know, if you look at the legend of this place, you know, was it the history of violence and the harshness of the landscape that preserved it for so long? >> roger: yeah. west texas stayed wild, and it's still wild. people have lived on this landscape for 14,000 years. through all these different nation-states and empires that