when the democrats take over the house and they have this enormous power to investigate anything they want. and so i think the trump administration is about to realize what kind of change and what it's going to be like when another party controls one of the two chambers. so undoubtedly because of -- look, i'm probably the only person in washington who never really thought that the hillary clinton e-mail thing was that big a deal. it was significant, you know, anytime the fbi gets involved with something, it's obvious very serious. there were legitimate questions there. but i always thought it was sort of blown out of proportion. and frankly what i've seen of this story is, yes, legitimate. these records acts are very important. it's important to preserve these records. >> right. >> but, you know, it doesn't seem like a high crime. i mean i think the issues related to whether ivanka trump should be serving in the white house at all and the precedents over nepotism are far worse than this e-mail thing.