healthy baby boy named lincoln at a hospital in paradise. 12 hours later as the camp fire raced toward the hospital, the hospital said they needed to flee. they jumped in a car with a stranger, a mechanical engineer with no medical training and michelle made apact said if it comes down to it, if you have to run, take the baby. leave me behind. michelle sanders joins us now on the phone. how scary. tell us what that warning was like when you heard you had to flee the hospital. >> at first it seemed so surreal. but once we got outside and saw the absolute chaos it was absolutely terrifying. >> a guy named dave -- i guess he was just a hospital worker, but had no medical training. he put you and the baby in his car and he was going to take you to the nearest hospital, which as we understand was in chico, 20 miles away. how long did that trip take?