what makes america different than other places around the world is that we do operate with a free, fair, and open press. and we have to protect that. i think we have to -- you know, it's important for folks to have a great working relationship with reporters, but fake news is dangerous. when journalists and folks are literally putting their lives on the line across the world, when people, jamal khashoggi, he lost his life for speaking out and telling the truth and being critical with his words on paper. this is serious business. and i think it's very dangerous for the administration to be trafficking in this conspiracy theory, if you will, of fake news. >> the thing is -- >> i can't disagree more with that. let's be honest here. journalists have to protect journalism. we all know because cnn, i understand, i work here and i know they work very hard to get it accurate, but let me just be honest. there are lots of news networks out there in this new media world where -- >> like breitbart?