very testy figure and she has people that have said, we won't vote for her. it would be difficult for people that are coming, especially from districts that went with trump two years ago to say, actually, we changed our minds so she's got to win people back who have not made a hard no commitment to vote against her and try to win over the people who have with various things like committee assignments. this is the brokering that nancy pelosi is good at, though. this is what she's going to be -- >> you got to be tough and you know, i don't want to use a pejorative word but you got to be tough to get these kinds of jobs. you don't just get there by being nice to people. mark, fudge, though, she is possibly a contender here, and she's being really direct about pelosi's qualifications. okay. sure, she's responsible for some wins but also here's fudge. >> she also was the person who over the last eight years lost seats. it's one thing to give people credit for win if anything you also make them responsible for losing.