wife to say in public, this woman's got to go? >> i don't really see it that way. after the midterms -- >> do tell. >> we all knew there was going to be this bloodth. we've all been anticipating it. reporters have been scurrying trying to figure out when will nielsen be fired, what does that mean for john kelly? >> if she goes john kelly goes. if sarah sanders goes raj goes. >> you want to say yes, yes, yes and how. in some ways, i don't pretend to. l answto have the answer. remember when kellyanne conway said she thought mitt romney wasn't a good candidate during the period he was having lunch with the president? that didn't anger the president. i think he enjoyed the fact that there was this internal fight that was going on, and so i think there is something about this is just yet one more public piece of this now over used metaphor of a reality show. >> i hear you on that.