by law. it's automatically triggered when the margin falls below 0.5 percentage points. the president, even the governor, they both seem hellbent on ignoring that. >> they do, which is odd given the fact that those laws and the idea of being an automatic trigger came in large part after the 2000 bush v. gore fiasco. so this was a rehabilitative measure that florida tried to undertake to ensure you never had it repeat again. now, of course, it didn't work out. we do have recounts. but in many ways you're counting for the very first time. the term recount can be a misnomer here because in some of these areas you have the overseas ballots coming in. you have undercounting of ballots because of mismatched signatures. i think a lot of this comes in large respect from these blanket assertions, these bald assertions with no facts behind them. in fact the florida police have found no evidence of fraud. the state elections commissions have no evidence of fraud. judges have said -- looked at one of nine lawsuits and said there's no evidence here.