presidential one. what's your take? >> he ought to have proof for what he says. it seems to be something that has been thrown out the window. there is criminal behavior or unethical belahavior he doesn't have proof of that. every vote ought to count. that's what matters. getting the truth, whether it's vote recounts, whatever it is, just getting to the truth matters. we talked a little bit ago. i am a former investigative journalist. what always guided us, i believe they are essential but we should count every vote and have every attempt to do that. >> and we should know election officials, broward county should be transparent with the process and open up these rooms to the journalists down there. florida has excellent local journalists. >> that's a big thing.