barack obama hosted him. they talked. it was very surprising. i remember being in the oval office, i was a pool that day, when donald trump was in the oval office with barack obama, and it was very cordial. donald trump was very thankful -- i mean, they stayed -- they overstayed the visit and everything was fine, even michelle obama and melania trump were together for longer periods of time. there was a congeniality. there was a friendship, we thought, that was building because we thought that everything was finished with on the campaign trail. and then, what happened, the turn happened, and you can see it through the videotapes, the day of inauguration when donald j. trump was being sworn in, he kept talking about the carnage and you remember seeing michelle obama's face. i believe at that moment, when they came into the oval office and when they came to the white house, there was a -- a leveling, a clearing out, if you will, of the old and trying to start something new, but it