>> let me just read one sentence from that article that he wrote, matt whitaker, for cnn.com, mueller's investigation of trump is going too far. it's very significant. quote, it is time for rosestein, who is the acting attorney general for purposes of this investigation to order mueller to limit the scope of his investigation to the four corners of the order appointing him special counsel." >> evan, let me ask you, when jeff sessions sought advice from the ethics attorneys at the department of justice and they told him he needed to recuse himself, that wasn't because of his opinion about the russia investigation, it was because he had talked and met with russian officials while he was a surrogate for the trump campaign. >> right. >> that's not legally binding, though, right? that's advice from ethics lawyers. he doesn't have to take it. >> right. the way the rules are the justice department are, jake, by