still gets republican voters fired up, but based on the recent gallop numbers i saw, the parties are basically now at parody on getting fired up. what i think we have to remind people is a simple choice. you can either keep this economy red hot or go back to the way it was. that is what is going to work, i think, in the suburban districts. the immigration stuff may work more in the rural senate races. >> what are your thoughts? >> i think it's abhorrent that the president is deciding that his closing argument is going to be about frightening, fear martyring, lying about a group of people that is -- that's coming through a caravan that is not an immigration crisis. it's actually a humanitarian crisis, and using that as a political talking point for the republican party. i think that's that should be really upsetting to many, many people, and especially if you are a republican who -- if you are a republican and this is your party for a long time and you really respected the values of the party to see this president doing that is incredibly troublesome, and it's just lies. it's pure lies.