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with that message, i think he is going to stick with it. he knows his approval is at 44%. that's the same as it was inauguration day. until he is proven wrong, immigration i think he feels in a turnout election is where he is going to stay. >> is this a what do you have to lose kind of moment, is that what we're hearing? >> i don't know that, fred. i think he feels comfortable on this ground, and will stick in it, throw in a little economy as well. but he wants to drive out core supporters, not to change mienlminds on big issues that effect everyone. >> thanks so much. straight ahead, as the migrant caravan heads towards the u.s., up next, why the pentagon said no to a key part of his request. ♪

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