to be interviewed by homeland security experts. before they can be admitted to the united states, they have to be able to make a case before an immigration judge demonstrating they are refugees with reason to fear prosecution. >> this is our ellis island. >> ellis island is every port of entry in the country. these aren't illegal immigrants. they're not country, so they're not ill real. number two, the united states laws specifically allow people to apply for asylum. they're doing everything they sl types, except for classes of white immigrants. >> do you know what steven miller's mother, your sister, thinks about this? >> no. i have made it a point not to discuss politics, you know, with that branch of the family for